GRAHAM SMITH, HOST:
Hey, it's Graham Smith, and I'm here with Tom Bowman. First, we want to thank you for listening to the podcast and staying subscribed to TAKING COVER. It's been so gratifying to hear from listeners through reviews and emails. And some of the folks who were there in Iraq at the time have given us new information that we'll keep looking into. Of course, we've also kept in touch with the people who were there in the schoolhouse, and we're continuing to push for accountability here in Washington. And that's at the heart of this update we're bringing you today because there's new attention being paid to this case up on Capitol Hill. You'll remember that the Marines wouldn't release the investigative report on the friendly fire until we won a federal court case against them. But before that, the widow of Rob Zurheide, one of the Marines who was killed along with Brad Shuter, shared a copy she'd received three years late. And even then, there was a lot held back. Elena Zurheide still wants to know why.
ELENA ZURHEIDE: Because that's what I view all of this, is a big, fat lie.
TOM BOWMAN, HOST:
When NPR reached out to the Marine Corps leadership after the podcast ran, telling them about our investigation, about Elena and several wounded veterans who'd never been told the truth, the Marine said there'd be no response. But there's someone else now looking for answers about what went wrong that day and why it was so poorly handled afterwards - Arizona Senator Mark Kelly, a Democrat who serves on the Armed Services Committee.
MARK KELLY: Robert Zurheide's widow, Elena, is one of my constituents. His son, Robert, who wasn't even born when he was killed, is there in Tucson with his mom.
BOWMAN: Going to Kelly's office, you walk past the orange spacesuit he wore as an astronaut and a photo of the fighter jet he flew in the Navy. He was a combat pilot like John McCain, the Republican war hero whose desk Kelly now sits behind.
KELLY: They deserve answers. It's important that they get them - not only them, but the folks that were wounded. You know, why were they not informed? You know, why did it take this long? It shouldn't. They should be informed immediately. The Marine Corps has regulations, and they need to follow them.
SMITH: When we went to the Marines for answers, at first they said they couldn't find any documentation of the friendly fire. Then they gave us conflicting stories about what had happened. And then they failed to even follow regulations and reach out to the wounded vets. But Kelly's a senator. They won't ignore him. The senator told us he recently met with the No. 2 Marine officer, General Christopher Mahoney, and he raised the issue of this mishandled incident.
Had he any idea what you were talking about, or - what did he say?
KELLY: Yeah, he was familiar with it. And he told us he's going to get us some answers, and I trust that he's going to do that.
BOWMAN: One of the wounded troops Kelly wants answers for is John Smith. You'll remember Smith, one of the Twin Towers, a Marine corporal who lost a leg and the use of one eye that day.
SMITH: Hey, John.
BOWMAN: We visited him recently in Maryland. He ambles out of his house slowly, walking with a stiff gait.
JOHN SMITH: Y'all ready?
SMITH: Great to see you.
SMITH: Likewise.
SMITH: How you been?
SMITH: I can't complain. Enjoying myself for the holidays. How's everything been with you, though?
BOWMAN: All good.
SMITH: All good.
BOWMAN: John's working on his master's degree in mental health counseling, and he's a hip-hop artist on the side. He says he still thinks about that explosion that mangled his leg every day.
SMITH: For about 10, 15 minutes in the morning, I'm back in 2004 'cause I have to put myself back together every time.
SMITH: Putting on the prosthetic?
SMITH: Exactly. So it's like I don't get to move all the way forward. But, I mean, after I put myself together, my daughter runs down, and I'm like, hey, I'm here now.
SMITH: By Pentagon regulations, someone from the Marines should have met with Smith and given him a copy of the investigation almost 20 years ago.
SMITH: I have never been contacted on this at all. Like, I - for none of it.
BOWMAN: You haven't heard anything official from the Marines?
SMITH: Nothing at all.
BOWMAN: And you learned about it from the podcast?
SMITH: Exactly.
BOWMAN: What does that - what do you think about that?
SMITH: I think it's - honestly, the only word I can say is disgusting. Like, you took - you espouse the words honor, courage, commitment, and you want us to follow them. And we give our life to follow them. But when the ball falls on you, it's all of a sudden not important.
BOWMAN: So why were John Smith and others never told the truth? Well, remember, one of the Marines involved in this deadly mistake, the officer who plotted this mortar mission, was First Lieutenant Duncan Hunter Jr., son of Duncan Sr., then a California congressman and the powerful chairman of the House Armed Services Committee.
SMITH: We'll be right back.
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SMITH: You heard a lot about the Marines and Navy corpsmen wounded that day in Fallujah. Well, there were also two U.S. Army soldiers. They had just arrived at the schoolhouse when the mortar dropped. One of them is Joe Colabuno. He wasn't in the podcast, but Tom and I talked with him on the National Mall last summer. You can hear the cicadas. We were next to the reflecting pool, near where they're planning to put up a memorial to the troops who served in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Joe remembers seeing the mortar round fall while he and his friend were having a smoke in the school courtyard where the Marines were holed up.
JOE COLABUNO: So he got blasted forward. I got blasted against - there was a little wall. You know, and Shihab was standing in the absolute worst possible way that you could be standing, and something explodes next to you.
SMITH: Remember, Shihab was there working for the Army, an Iraqi interpreter who took the job to support his young brothers and sisters back in Baghdad.
COLABUNO: Shihab was just like this, staring up at the stars.
BOWMAN: Joe Colabuno and his friend John Nelson were both badly wounded, could have been medically retired, but they fought to stay in. Both are still on active duty and hold the rank of sergeant major. The Marines have never told them the truth about their wounds and the death of their friend, Shihab.
SMITH: Colabuno always assumed the explosion that day in April 2004 was caused by the enemy, until we told him what really happened. He's never talked much about that day.
COLABUNO: I don't carry it like a weight. I carry it somewhere, I guess. But, I mean, war sucks. War is hell, right? I mean, we know that. We know this. But I - it's so stupid to - why would you cover it up? But...
SMITH: He points to the Capitol building looming at the end of the Mall.
COLABUNO: As long as these guys understand it. And the further away we get from war, the less they understand the cost of war going forward, right? I mean, it needs to be an incredible tax on the nation to go to war. It should be because we need to think real f***ing hard before we do that.
BOWMAN: Which gets us back to why Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona tells us he's looking into this case. He says beyond these men and the families getting the truth, it's important for the military to learn from their mistakes.
KELLY: To prevent future ones, and to figure out why it happened. And then you need to put in some, you know, processes and procedures to make sure that stuff like that does not happen again.
BOWMAN: We also wrote to the U.S. Army Chief of Staff, General Randy George, alerting him to the fact that his active duty soldiers who'd been wounded by the marine mortar had never been duly notified. His office told us their lawyers are reaching out to the Marines to see why.
SMITH: Meanwhile, the Marines who fought in Fallujah 20 years ago are planning a reunion in California in February. We'll be there and hope to bring you an update. They've also invited Joe Colabuno and the other soldier, John Nelson - men who they never got to know at the time but who share the same tragedy. They hope by then they'll get some answers from the Marine Corps. Again, thanks for listening. We hope you'll continue to spread the word about TAKING COVER and keep an eye on this feed.
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